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JOHN KRAFCIK: Hi, Aaron, and welcome to Fountain Valley.
AG: First question: What are you driving?
JOHN KRAFCIK: You know that my last three cars were Accent SEs. I love the 1.6 liter scrappiness and the wonderful chassis, which we spent a lot of time working on. I still think it's one of the hidden gems in the auto industry from a fun-to-drive-per-dollar standpoint. But with the new job, and with the program we have internal to the company to cycle through some of the pre-production Genesis models, I'm now driving one of those. It's a Genesis V8, black, which wouldn't have been my favorite color but we had limited selection.
AG: I saw a row of them out in the executive parking spots. I was looking for the Accent, but I guess it wouldn't look good to have the president and CEO driving around in a $15,000 car.
JOHN KRAFCIK: I think it would look fantastic! (laughs) And I can't wait to get back into an Accent. My wife's driving a 2009 Sonata Limited with the four-cylinder, and she's loving it. And I think you're going to see more and more of them in the mid-size world.
AG: Your past posting was VP of Product Planning...how has this changed things, having a "product guy" in [the CEO] position?
JOHN KRAFCIK: Often in our industry folks in this position don't have a strong product background. I think what works about Hyundai and our executive team is we have an incredible assortment of talent. Joel Ewanick on the marketing side, who was the father of the Hyundai Assurance program; Dave Zuchowski, our Vice President of sales, I'm convinced is the best sales executive in the industry, in any company, bar none; Frank Ferrara in parts and service. So, we're just a team that works really well, and I just happen to have some product experience.
AG: The sense that I get is [that] a key part of Hyundai's recent success has been letting American executives make the decisions about where the company goes. Is that an accurate assessment? How much of the product strategy has been coming from America, how much is coming from Korea?
JOHN KRAFCIK: I would say we're working to get to the right balance...we've just been here 22 years, Aaron, when you think about it, [a] short period of time. So the initial thoughts on product entry were kind of born in Korea, and with time, we've grown the capability of the American staff, both from a product planning standpoint, from an engineering standpoint, in Michigan first and now in California, with design. So, yeah, I think the influence is growing, and we've reached a really nice balance. We have terrific discussions here, in California and in Michigan, and we have terrific discussions as well in Korea, where we make some of the decisions for the future products.
AG: One of the things I've noticed, obviously you guys have [introduced] all new products in the past, what, three years, now that Tiburon's gone? I think everything's --
JOHN KRAFCIK: Everything is fresh, the oldest thing in the lineup is the Tucson.
AG: That's from 2005, correct?
JOHN KRAFCIK: Yes.
AG: It seems the higher-end product are really strong... products like the Genesis, Azera, Santa Fe, Veracruz. [But] the latest iterations of the Accent and the Elantra are not so strong. The Accent's really kind of getting beat up on value-for-money versus the [Nissan] Versa and the [Honda] Fit and the Suzuki SX4, and the Elantra is a very nice car but a little bit bland. Is this a shift in focus for Hyundai away from smaller, more inexpensive products, or is it just kind of an oversight, and yes, those products could be better?
JOHN KRAFCIK: I think reasonable people can have reasonable disagreements about relative virtues of cars, but I'd say, cars like, I mean, in particular the Elantra, it is Consumer Reports' top pick for a compact car, and we think it's absolutely the best compact car you can buy for the money. We're really proud about Accent. You know I'm a big Accent booster and fan myself. I continue to think of the Accent as kind of an undiscovered gem, in the same way that Azera is, but in a very different market segment. I think Accent deserves a lot more praise than it's been getting because I think for the most part people aren't so aware of it. But no, to get back to your original question, we are definitely not moving away from our entry-level products, and we really can't, when you think about it. We've made some pretty bold pronouncements, Aaron, about what we're going to be, say, in 2015. By 2015 we'll be the number one fuel-economy brand in the US. That's our stated goal. We're #3 right now.
AG: You're going to meet 35 MPG CAFE [Corporate Average Fuel Economy] a couple of years early, correct?
JOHN KRAFCIK: Five years, more than a couple. Five years early... And to do that, we have to have a tremendous focus on the low-end, more affordable cars and smaller powertrains than what you're seeing now in the industry.
AG: So, you're saying [that] the advances that we've seen in the Genesis, we can expect to see in future Accents and Elantras?
JOHN KRAFCIK: Truly. Yeah. Right, now I think it's fair to say we're filling out our range, and we've got the pair of Genesis products that are kind of filling this interesting rear-wheel-drive premium functional performance space, but we've got tremendous investments coming in the next few years in smaller vehicle segments. I'm really excited about the production version of the concept car called Veloster. Don't worry, we won't name our production car Veloster, I promise you.
AARON GOLD: Are you going to name it Genesis?
JOHN KRAFCIK: Nor will it be a Genesis product. I knew you were going to go there! But that's going to be a terrific car. 1.6 liter high-tech four-cylinder engine, very light, tossable chassis, interesting functional solution, something that the market hasn't seen yet. We're excited about that car. So we've got lots of surprises coming at the lower, more affordable end of our product range. We're going to continue to invest in the mid-section of the range with cars like Sonata and Santa Fe. We've got our all-new Sonata coming, which will be in Hyundai dealers just about this time next year [Feburary 2010]...And then the Genesis products will continue as well.
AG: Accent SE. I don't know if you saw [my] last review, I loved the car --
JOHN KRAFCIK: Yeah!
AG: -- as long as you can keep it going fast enough. It's a great chassis, we've talked about it before. And what it needs is about probably 50 more horsepower.
JOHN KRAFCIK: But -- whoa, whoa, wait. Why?
AG: Because the curvy roads I drive on, the About.com Top Secret Curvy Test Road, has a lot of [steep] gradients, and I had to rev the daylights out of it to keep it going. [And] when I drove it at Willow Springs...I just ran out of engine at about 95 miles an hour. The question I'm leading to...now that you've kind of branched off into luxury...[is] if you're considering performance models, something like TRD [Toyota Racing Development], where you would have factory-supplied performance kits, [or an] "Elantraspeed" Touring. Are these things in Hyundai's future?
JOHN KRAFCIK: We do have some news, and it's just a little bit too early to share some of the stuff that we have coming, but I think your readers are going to be really interested and delighted with where we're going... I hope you see, Aaron, and I hope automotive enthusiasts see, this growing band of interest within Hyundai of developing products targeted more towards enthusiasts. And we've done it in a fairly low-key way, with products like Accent SE. Elantra SE, if you've not tried it, actually has a pretty darn credible chassis itself. We have a Sonata SE model that has a completely unique suspension tuning that feels, I think, really, really good. And then we've really let it fly with Genesis, but in particular Genesis coupe, where we're delivering what we think to be a new value benchmark for rear-wheel-drive performance.
AG: [What about] small engine performance.... direct injection, turbochargers -- [is this] something we can expect to see?
JOHN KRAFCIK: Oh, absolutely, yeah. And again, to hit our mandate, fuel economy leader by 2015, you're going to see significant investments in powertrain downsizing, direct injection, turbocharging. You'll see examples of that throughout our lineup... In general, you'll see the the SE version of our models with some kind of direct injected and/or turbocharged powertrain, typically four-cylinder.
AG: So SE will be a proper performance model, is what you're saying, on future Hyundais.
JOHN KRAFCIK: Correct, correct. Including powertrain enhancement as well as chassis enhancement.
AG: Do you guys have any interest in entering the pickup market?
JOHN KRAFCIK: I think right now we feel happy not to be represented in that segment. You might have heard me, Aaron, describe the pickup truck segment, in particular the full-size, light-duty full-size pickup truck segment, as a bit of a killing field. It's a very, very difficult place to compete. The domestic Big Three are really terrific at great pickup trucks, and they've got a lot of installed capacity, they've got huge scale economies, and it would be extremely difficult to compete with those guys on cost. So then you say, "Oh, well then, you should do a compact or a mid-size pickup." The problem is with the scale advantage that the domestics have for full-size light-duty [trucks]. It's fairly easy for them to price those vehicles in a way that makes it impossible for a new entrant to make money with a smaller truck. Right now, we believe there's only one sub-full-size pickup truck that's a profitable nameplate in the US, and that's the Tacoma... Toyota's got so much equity in that segment, it would be very, very difficult. So if we were to do something in the pickup truck vein, I think it would have to be some new creative solution, or perhaps some re-do of concepts you might have seen in the past, and many have tried them. Remember the Subaru Brat and other vehicles like that?...maybe a unibody solution that came off of an existing platform that hit an entry-level price point. We've certainly looked at products like that one, but don't have a plan right now.
AARON GOLD: Alright, the Genesis brand.
JOHN KRAFCIK: Yeah.
AG: So the Tiburon's gone, you've got this great new sideways rear-wheel-drive coupe that you're giving the same name as your cushy, comfy Lexus fighter. Setting aside our --
JOHN KRAFCIK: "Cushy comfy Lexus fighter"? Who's positioning it like that? That sounds like Aaron Gold's positioning. We never use the term "cushy".
AG: No, I know, you use "rear-wheel-drive performance." That actually leads to another question... The Genesis sedan is, to me, more of a comfortable car than a performance-oriented car. It's more of a Lexus or a Mercedes than an Infiniti or an Audi. What's wrong with that?
JOHN KRAFCIK: Nothing's wrong with that, but I think it is more than that. I think any car that can do 0-60 in 5.7 seconds, as the Tau Genesis can do, and any car that can handle as well as that car can do, and we've got a lot of data showing it does very well versus cars like the Infiniti M and the more performance-focused Lexus models. I'm not talking about the LS. And BMW 7-series. I mean, I think it is credible. And I think that when people come to see this car, their first impression is always "Oh, Hyundai's trying to copy Lexus." And I think sometimes that impression is difficult to overcome. But if there were some way that people could drive a car blindfolded, if we could put them in a Genesis and have them drive it versus the competitive set of large flagship premium sedans like the BMW 7-series, like the Mercedes S-Class, Lexus LS and Infiniti M, I am certain that they would put Genesis on the sportier side of that group as opposed to the softer side of that group. The whole idea with Genesis, and what we're doing with the family of Genesis products, is simple. It's shorthand at Hyundai for rear-wheel-drive, premium performance vehicles. And we think it works wonderfully. We talk about, and I don't know if you saw the Super Bowl ads where we kind of combine the Genesis sedan with a little tease of the Genesis coupe, but they are, I think, nicely paired products. They kind of complete each other. They represent, I don't want to call it a sub-brand, but a family of products that differentiate themselves from the rest of the products in the Hyundai lineup, first and foremost by their rear-wheel-driveness.
AG: Their rear-wheel-driveness?
JOHN KRAFCIK: Rear-wheel-driveness. I made up that word.
AG: I haven't driven the Genesis Coupe yet. Seen it, looked in the interior, [and] it seems to me to be going in a very different direction then the Genesis sedan. Everybody seems to get their back up when I talk about the Genesis [sedan] being more luxurious than sporty, because, I mean, it's a fantastic, luxurious car.
JOHN KRAFCIK: We think it's both. You can be both. It has a very premium interior, but the car is also very engaging to drive.
AG: You can be both, but that's the thing... taking Hyundai out of the picture, if I wanted to have fun on a curvy road, I'd buy an Infiniti G. If I wanted to take a trip down to San Diego, I would buy a Mercedes E-Class. I would not mix them. I don't know that I agree... this is turning into your interview of me.
JOHN KRAFCIK: How did that happen?
AG: Getting back to the question a lot of readers sent me -- I swear it's not just me, the readers are saying this -- it seems that the path you guys are forging is for a Genesis brand.
JOHN KRAFCIK: Well, I think for sure the path we're forging is for a family of rear-wheel-drive products that will share a Genesis nameplate.... We call it a grouping strategy. You see it also with Elantra and Elantra Touring, right? Elantra was a product that was focused from a development point of view for the US, Korea and China markets. The Elantra Touring was a variance of that platform really focused for Europe. And when we decided to bring that product to the US, because we thought -- you know I'm a big fan of wagons and two-box design. We thought it made a heck of a lot more sense to just share the Elantra nameplate, and kind of extend that brand. It's very expensive to develop new nameplates. And when you can find ways to group them together, especially for a brand like us -- I mean, Aaron, we're a 3% market share brand. Three percent. We have ten models. And each of those names is extremely expensive to nurture and grow. So, with Genesis, we thought, you know what? They're the same platform, they're both rear-wheel-drive. If we add another rear-wheel-drive car to our lineup, it's going to share a Genesis name as well. And we can build a little -- sub-brand is too strong a word, I prefer "family". It's a family of products that kind of share that kind of DNA that's a little bit different from the rest of the Hyundai lineup.
AG: I wonder what sort of third product might have a Genesis nameplate on it.
JOHN KRAFCIK: Well, let's think about what the possibilities might be, and then perhaps you or your readers could give us some feedback. One idea which we've talked about is, in the Korean domestic market, we've had for some time a kind of an uber-flagship vehicle called the Equus ["eh-koos"]. There is now a variant of that coming to market in Korea that's kind of a long-wheelbase super-Genesis. We are looking at the possibility of bringing that to the US market. It would be a relatively low-volume vehicle. That is one possibility. We've also got studies ongoing, other variants of the rear-wheel-drive platform. When you have a rear-wheel-drive platform you want to use it as often as possible, to help amortize your costs. So we've looked at higher H-point, higher seating position variants. You can imagine a vehicle like an Infiniti FX. We've studied products like this one. That one also may be a little bit further away, but [it's] something that we're thinking about. And then we've also had the discussion, what about a pure and proper two-seat roadster rear-wheel-drive vehicle, which is also something that we're looking at. Aaron's giving me two thumbs up on that one.
AARON GOLD: I like the roadster. Getting back to the Genesis issue... The dealership experience is a big part of buying a luxury car. A lot of [luxury brands] are putting tons of money into re-doing dealerships and to really insisting that the service is top-notch. I have spoken to people who stick with a brand not because of the car, but because of the service that they receive. How do you sell a $40,000 luxury car, which is really as nice as a $50,000 luxury car, at stores that are used to selling and maintaining discount family cars?
JOHN KRAFCIK: We put a huge effort into upgrading the level of Hyundai dealership sales and service expertise. A lot of dedicated training. And the great news is having a car like Genesis is helping to raise the whole experience for every Hyundai shopper coming into a Hyundai dealership. So that's a great thing, right? So we're getting better and better at the dealer level because of a product like Genesis and the focus and emphasis we've put on that, and ensuring those customers are treated very well. That's kind of working as a halo within the dealership. Is there more to be done? Sure. And we continue to work on figuring out ways to do even better on serving customers in the dealership.
AG: I take it, though, that separate [Genesis] dealerships... especially in this market is a little bit [difficult] to consider.
JOHN KRAFCIK: Yeah, and that's the thing, when we developed this plan to launch Genesis in the current Hyundai dealer network, we didn't know the economy would be this bad. Frankly, the fact that the economy has gotten this bad has been a boost to Genesis and kind of -- I don't want to say validated the strategy, but it has made it more successful then I think it otherwise would have been, because people now are really questioning, and there were a bunch of folks before, even when the US economy was strong, [who] were questioning the value of a premium brand and the value of the dealership experience that you described, Aaron. I mean, it's a cappuccino and a car wash, and it's good service, and many people value those things. But is it really worth $10,000? And a lot of people, especially today, are saying, you know what? I just want a great car. And if I don't get a cappuccino and a car wash at the dealership, maybe that's OK. I mean, that same mind set, I think, has been in place for a while in the American psyche, but I think it's becoming even more so today. It's the same kind of mindset and psyche that is driving a lot of people to places like Costco, right? People who have a lot of money to shop anywhere else do their shopping at Costco, because, well, customer service isn't great, but you know what? The prices are good, and they have a great warranty and return policy, and they have a lot of trust for that. And I think we can develop a very similar kind of experience and pull through our Hyundai dealerships.
AG: One thing I've always wondered is if the attractive price of the Genesis could not be a little off-putting. Do people [think], I just paid $40,000, even though I was shopping it against 50, 60 thousand dollar cars...what's wrong with it?
JOHN KRAFCIK: Well, interesting perspective. We haven't found very many people who've said, "I'd like to pay more for this car." But if you know any of those guys, I want to hear from them. You know, $33,000 to $42,000 is a pretty eye-popping price point from our point of view, and we're delighted with the response we're getting to the Genesis at those price points. We just finished, January [2009] sales [figures]. We actually exceeded our sales objective for Genesis. We had hoped to sell a thousand units this month, a very, very difficult month for the industry, and...1,056 was the number we put in the book, and that was with a relatively light bit of advertising. We really didn't market the car very much in the month of January. The North American Car of the Year award did a lot of that for us, I think, which was terrific.
AG: And the About.com Cars Best New Cars of 2009 spot.
JOHN KRAFCIK: Yeah, I forgot to mention that... We got some other web site award today, but I probably shouldn't mention that one. And we have done this level of sales without incentives. All we have is a small bit of lease support, Aaron, so we haven't put a penny on the car in terms of consumer rebates or anything like that. And that's in marked contrast to what we see our competitors doing. One of the things that makes me really happy is we're outselling the Infiniti M at retail right now. For the last several months we've done that. And if you look at the amount of money Nissan is putting on the Infiniti, I mean, it is well in excess of what we're putting on our car. So when you get to a net transaction price, and what people are actually paying for their cars, the gap between our approach, which is a fair value price without a big discount, compared to what some of our premium brand competitors are having to do now in this market where the amount of money people are willing to pay for a premium badge is dropping very, very quickly, we're actually coming off looking fairly good.
AARON GOLD: What's stopping Hyundai from being the number one automaker in the US?
JOHN KRAFCIK: Right now, let me say where we are. We're the number 7 brand in the US, which I think is interesting. We're a 3% market share company, but in this incredibly fragmented market, with over 30 brands, last year we moved to number seven. We had been number 10 for the last couple of years. So we trail really terrific strong brands like Toyota, Honda and Nissan, Ford, Chevrolet, and Dodge, and we're number 7 behind those six. I think for us it's a matter of time. We're 22 years in the US. Our key Japanese competitors have been in market for about 50 years. And if you look at the gestation of those brands and where they were after 20 years in the US, you say, yeah, Hyundai's on a pretty good growth path. But for us it's a long journey, and we don't have any aspirations to be the number one brand in the US. I think we have a different goal, which is to absolutely delight all of our customers and please them, one car at a time, and we think if we do that, eventually we'll do better, and we'll see better sales results than we're seeing right now. Which are looking pretty good, I don't know if you've seen our January [2009] sales... but if you look at where the industry analysts say our industry is going to end up this month, sales are going to be off roughly speaking 20 to 30%, folks believe. [NOTE: The actual figure was 37%.] We're going to show a 14% sales increase, January over January.
AG: Do you think that's based on value, do you think it's based on strength of the product -- what do you think accounts for that?
JOHN KRAFCIK: A lot of things are working for us right now. We do have a strong value reputation, we have a strong fuel economy reputation, but getting to the value point, right now, if you look at pricing the way we do, which is adjusting for content, we're at 97% of Toyota pricing, which might surprise you. It might surprise your readers that we are that close to Toyota.
AG: You're talking about transaction prices? [NOTE: Transaction price is the actual negotiated price that is paid for a car.]
JOHN KRAFCIK: MSRP. [MSRP = sticker price]
AG: MSRP?
JOHN KRAFCIK: MSRP is about 97%.
AG: I didn't realize it was that close.
JOHN KRAFCIK: It is very, very close, and if you go back just 7 or 8 years, we were, roughly speaking, 85% of Toyota. So what traditionally had been a 15% discount versus Toyota is now a 3% discount... But we offer, we think, a lot more, with the warranty... which is 10 years/100,000 miles on the powertrain, 5 years and 60,000 miles bumper-to-bumper, and it's often said our warranty isn't transferrable. It is. If you sell your Hyundai, the new owner gets the full 5 year/60,000 mile bumper-to-bumper warranty. The 10 year/100,000 mile powertrain doesn't transfer, but the 5 year/60,000 mile [does], which is much, much better than any of our big Japanese competitors. So we think, although the value gap has dropped, the cars are now priced more appropriately versus the competition. They are as good as Toyotas, they deserve to be priced close to that brand. We still have a brand gap in terms of what people think of Hyundai versus Toyota, but that is dropping, I think, in a way that you'd expect and be very proud of, as we are. The other key point is, if you just look at the percentage of Americans who are aware of our brand and would be willing to consider buying one, a couple of years ago, Aaron, we were at 11%, so one in ten Americans would have Hyundai on their shopping list. In 2008, we were at 25%. So now it's up to one in four. And that's a wonderful reservoir of future sales, when you think about it. Today we're on the shopping list of 25% of Americans. We have 3% market share. That says we've got opportunity to grow. So what's working for us now is some wonderful third-party recognition. Consumer Reports recognition for cars like Genesis and Elantra. The Car of the Year award for Genesis. Our Hyundai Assurance program, I think, has also resonated in this climate. We're basically seeking to take out a major reservation consumers have right now about buying a car. "Geez, I don't want to be saddled with new car payments. If I lose my job, I'll have to turn in the car, I'll have to deal with the negative equity, I'll have a bad credit rating," right? Hyundai Assurance kind of tackles that issue right on, saying, hey, we're going to get through this together. We're going to find a way to, if you do lose your job, you can just bring the car back, and we'll take it back. 'Cause honestly, that's not going to happen in very many cases.
AG: Hopefully not.
JOHN KRAFCIK: Hopefully not. If the unemployment rate, which is today, what, in the 8% range? I mean, if it goes from 8 to 10 or 11%, and factor that over the total number of car purchases, it's a relatively small number.
AG: So that program's not going to wind up costing you a ton of money, but it sounds like it's going to generate a lot more showroom traffic.
JOHN KRAFCIK: I think it's generated a lot of interest. I think folks have recognized it as a different approach. One thing that we find in today's environment is discounting isn't working like it usually would. Going back a year or two, you could count on a thousand dollar incremental rebate delivering a certain number of incremental sales. In today's environment, that same thousand dollars might deliver one-third of the incremental sales of a year ago. Discounts and rebates aren't working. We needed to address the root cause of the problem, which is, "Oh my God, I might lose my job."
AARON GOLD: What lessons are there for Hyundai in the Detroit meltdown?
JOHN KRAFCIK: Boy, that's such a complicated issue, and I spent fourteen years at Ford, so I've still got a lot of heart, sensitivity and empathy for the position of the Detroit Big Three. They're a smart bunch, you know, and I think Americans often forget that. They're very successful in other parts of the world, and they're the same company, and the same leaders, and the same management team, and they don't suddenly just get stupid when it comes to US product and the US market situation. There have been a lot of things that the Big Three have had to work against... structural things and structural costs, on the one hand. On the other hand, they have the incredible advantage of one hundred year histories, and having the opportunity to build remarkable brand loyalty through outstanding products. And I think the one thing that, at times, the Big Three, at times, not always, might have kind of lost sight of was the importance of delivering great products all the time and focusing on the customer. And I think fundamentally that's the one lesson that I take from the situation that the Big Three are in right now... we can never forget how important it is to design and deliver great products. When I talk to folks, having been a chief engineer at Ford, and understanding how difficult it is to run a vehicle program...I can tell you that one of the issues that the Big Three face, and really every automaker faces, is just how difficult it is to deliver your vehicle program on cost. To hit your cost target and deliver it. And in my experience at Ford, and my experience so far at Hyundai, I've found the best vehicles are the ones that miss their cost targets. And the ones the customers should probably avoid are the ones that successfully delivered the financial target, the cost target, right? In the long run, those cars didn't deliver their revenue targets, didn't deliver their customer satisfaction targets, but there was the short-term sense that, "Oh, I hit my cost target, I did a great job." I disagree strongly. And that's one of the things that we've focused on here at Hyundai. We have decided in many, many cases, in most of the cases where we had the choice between saving the money to hit the cost target or investing a little bit more to deliver a better interior or a better driving experience, we went ahead and made that investment. So, recommendation for you, Aaron, next time you're on a car launch, ask the chief engineer if he hit his cost target. If he says yes... run away quick.
AG: It seems that part of the problems [the Big Three are having] is that they've having no problem delivering great high-end cars, but it's the low-end cars where the profit margins are a lot slimmer that the problems seem to pop up. You've got the Japanese automakers, which have delivered some terrific small cars. You and I a couple of years ago rode together in that [Suzuki] SX4 when it first came out.
JOHN KRAFCIK: Yeah. Right.
AG: Fit and Versa are great cars. Yaris, I think, is a very good product. [The Japanese automakers are] refocusing their efforts on the smaller cars. They can't be making a ton of money on those cars considering all the content and the engineering. Is that a ground that Hyundai wants to re-stake? I mean, you guys made your name in cheap, reliable transportation. How important is it that the next Accent kicks some Fit, Versa and Yaris ass? Or is it okay just to have a car that's just okay, that appeals to a value-conscious customer and is not really dazzling?
JOHN KRAFCIK: We think it's tremendously important having great entry-level cars, affordable cars that can get new people into the Hyundai product line where we have traditionally had great loyalty. Once we get a customer into a Hyundai, they tend to stay with us. So we call it our gateway strategy, and yeah, you're going to see a tremendous next Accent. You're going to see continued excellence from Elantra, and both of those models are completely new in what we're calling 24/7 Version 2.0. So, you talked about, Aaron, at the start of this discussion, all the new model introductions we did, really from the period 05 through 07, [when] we launched seven all new cars in 24 months. Then we launched Veracruz and Genesis, and now we've, now we're in the midst of what we call, again, 24/7 Version 2.0, starting with Genesis Coupe, Elantra Touring, we've got an all-new Tucson coming later this year, the next Sonata, and then completely new versions of Accent and Elantra just around the corner. And they're going to be fantastic cars from an overall craftsmanship standpoint, quality of interior materials, driving experience, incredible fuel economy, which again is a real focus for us. That is, along with outstanding exterior design, interior packaging ingenuity is something we're really working on. Improving the fun-to-drive quotient of all of our cars, because that's really been a missing piece. When people think about Hyundai, rarely do they think "fun-to-drive", and that's been one of the passions that I've had since I've been here is trying to inject more of that into our brand. I think that's essential to grow the brand with time. And fuel economy. Those four things, I think, are really on our radar screen, and you're going to see that, even more than you do today. And I know you're an Accent SE fan, you're going to love the new Accent. You're going to love the new Elantra. You're going to love the production version of the Veloster. And some of the other stuff we have coming below Sonata.
AG: I don't know if you've had the chance to see the new 2010 Mazda3... They've gone real heavy on content. You can get it with push-button start, climate control... [it's a] really nice car. It would seem that that is something that would be easy for Hyundai to do in the Elantra segment. A higher priced car that delivers more content with better fuel economy. Is that something you guys are looking [at]?
JOHN KRAFCIK: Yes! Absolutely. Coming soon, navigation, for example, coming to Elantra. Not available now, but you're going to see more and more...high-end vehicle content moving into vehicles like Accent and Elantra.
AARON GOLD: I want to get back to the Genesis sedan. It seems now that you guys have kind of got the big quiet comfort thing down, what's now separating the high-end cars -- Mercedes, Lexus and all that -- from the Genesis is some more advanced technologies like adaptive cruise, night vision, collision avoidance braking, things like that. Is Hyundai going to go in that direction?
JOHN KRAFCIK: Yes. Stay tuned. We'll have lots to say on that subject later this year.
AG: One last question. If you could relaunch the Genesis, what's the one thing you'd do differently?
JOHN KRAFCIK: Interesting question. What would I do differently. Long pause. Well, okay... we underestimated the demand for the most expensive car, the V8 navigation system vehicle. A $42,000 price point. Our initial thoughts indicated that would be a 10% mix car. Probably, Aaron, that could have been a 30 to 40% mix car. Right now, V8, for example, in January [2009], V8 mix ran close to 40%, which is extraordinary, and we're still not up to a dealer stocking level that would indicate what free demand mix might be. And the navigation system, even though it's part of the very expensive technology package at $4,000, the demand for that system has been straight through the roof. So, I suppose one thing, if I could turn back the hands of time, would have been to have offered a richer mix from the start, for that model.
AG: Thank you very much, John, for speaking to us.
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* Hyundai?s all-new 4.6-liter Tau V8 engine, in the premium Genesis sedan, has been named one of the ?Ward?s 10 Best Engines? for 2009 by Ward?s
* The Elantra SE was awarded a Top Pick in the ?Best Small Sedans? category for the second consecutive year
* The Sonata SE was called a ?standout among standouts? in the family car category
* The 2009 Hyundai Sonata was recognized for the fourth consecutive year by
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* The 2009 Hyundai Elantra was named ?Best Compact Car for the Money? by
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